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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.

Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.


    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.

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2007-04-14, 11:33:05  
this guy ROCCO MANCUSI he's the kind of Scams ! pls be carefull with him he use to ask for a money on internet.
A reliable source says then he currently live in Madrid (Spain) pls be aware of him he is just a pathological liar.

2007-04-14, 15:56:04
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Hello all, this guy tried to scam me on He came on very strongly, we had long IM conversations and after 1 week he dropped the bomb saying his mother in Denmark was ill and he needed a plane ticket. He claims he lives in Texas in my town, he even gave me an address!! He is going by the name Delsin Vogel, he will even give you his cell phone number in Lagos cause he says he is working there buying and selling jewels and rare artifacts. He also has another pic posted in a suit and tie, very respectable. His english is great on the IM, but horrible on the phone. DONT GET FOOLED BY HIM! He is a big liar and will only ask you for money girl! DONT BUY IT!!!!!

He sent this idenical letter to me but changed it to say he lived in London!!!!!!
How is your day going? Just sending you another email of more about myself..I cant wait to know more about you and see things will work for us.I have always wanted to be alone and do things my way so getting into the line of work had been a way for me to express lots of my flair of entertainment and arts.I love to watch football.My favourite sport too is football but then i like to see it in the international level and also its peak of advancement.My family is not in the US,right now i only have my Mom because i lost my Dad while i was younger and since then she vowed not to remarry and a promise she keeps till now.So no siblings,and i have only just my Mom and she has never been to the States either because of the rate at which violence comes up in the news and all that so she gets so scared and wants to always be careful.I have stayed in Matthews for about 4years now.But have stayed with my late grandma in Madison that in Wisconsin when i lost my Dad and had to leave for safety,never had the chance to make friends there,see how the place is or even have a feel of the area well that i might call security anyway. I have had just one serious and commited relationship which i was humiliated in,and since i have been hurt,i know how it feels and do not wish to experience such nor make anyone feel such.My ex was impregnated by my best friend so i had to let her go.Though i am way over it anyway and ready to move on and ahead to a better life.Tell me about your past relationships and if any luck so far being on match.None for me as though had two dates but just never seem serious all they wanted was just a night stand and i am not that type i need something and someone serious to be with.I will wait to hear from you. Also sorry for the delay in responding to you ,i was actually planning on a trip out of town because of my work.I am into sales,sales of gems,jewelries,gold and artifacts,so i a needing something african and there is no way i would get such with the kind of authencity needed if i dont go there,so going to africa to do shopping for my work and when i am done i will come back home to do my sales. Had India and africa as my priority of where to go but most likely going to africa so leaving tomorrow because of my work but i will always keep in touch alright but will be back in less than 2-3weeks .So let me know how you are doing alright. Have a good day . Delsin
2007-04-15, 02:15:06
anonymous from United States  
The person using the below photos is now on 'City of Brides', she is 'Tatyana' now. I will add to the body of knowledge with the letters she sent to me.


I am glad to meet you! I just saw your structure. You are very interesting to me! I want to learn you more. Now let I shall tell a little about itself. My name Tatyana. To me of 27 years, I the quiet, cheerful, cheerful and sensitive young girl. About me so speak:))) I work as the bookkeeper in the small organization. Very much to like me this work. I receive pleasure from it! I live in Russia. I want to meet serious the man which has unlimited potential of love which is full of a life...., where you, my prince?
If you exist in this big world, please, show yourself. Probably it is similar to a fairy tale, but I really hope that I shall find the love as love - always a fairy tale. I am sure, that we can find true love. Only the love inspires people. People are given birth for love. And we should love! I need in the person who can understand me, open my private world. If I shall find such person I shall devote my stayed life only to it.
If you are interested in me and search too most if for you the distance has no any value write to me. I think, that we shall find the general interests, and we shall start to talk through e-mail. If you want to know more about me, please write to me on the address of e-mail
I have serious intentions! My purpose to find the man and to form family (it is my dream). I not bad speak in English, but sometimes to me to have to use the computer translator. If you find a mistake please do not pay to this attention.
I wait for your answer with impatience.
Have good day.


Hallo Steve!!!
I am glad to receive the letter from you. Thanks for that that you have paid attention to me. You are very interesting to me. I wish to learn as much as possible about you, about your family, about the country in which you live. I have not got used to write the letter to the person whom I never saw. But I hope that it will turn out not badly. I have no house computer; I should go to the Internet of cafe. It is first time when I get acquainted with the man through the Internet. I hope that we can find the general interests and learn each other better. I wish to tell to you about my representation about the man which is necessary to me. I do not look at appearance of men, it for me is not important. Important that at it inside. Soul of the person, its private world - here the main thing. In this letter I wish to tell to you a little about myself. I understand, that will learn the person through letters very difficultly, but we should put to it greater efforts. I shall be glad, if you will write to me about yourselves, about the life. My name is Tatyana. I live in Russia in
the city of Kirov. This city very old. It is located to northeast from Moscow on distance of 900 kilometers. It is small city, with a population 500 000 person. I was born on July, 25th, 1979. To me of 27 years. I was born in village near to Kirov. 4 years ago has moved to Kirov to live separately from parents. My parents have remained to live in village. They very good people. I visit them almost each days off. Now I live in a small apartment on surburb of city, separately from parents. I the only child in family. I the usual girl, modest enough, but during too time very sociable. I have good sense of humour. Probably therefore I have many friends. But I have only two girlfriends who can understand me to which I can entrust all the
secrets. They always help me a difficult minute. You have many friends? With this letter I send you a photo. I hope, that it is pleasant to you. I also wish to see your photos. But I should warn you, do not send too greater photos, as to Russia very bad Internet.

You likely are surprised, what I the nice girl still have not found the man with which it is possible to build serious attitudes? Certainly you can think that it is very strange that I have not found the love. I cannot understand in what business. Recently I have met the girlfriend from whom went to school. It has told to me, that went to the Internet of cafe. There has got acquainted with the man from other country. Some times went to it. Has very strongly fallen in love and is now happy. Soon at them wedding takes place. After that I have solved, that I should to try find the love through the Internet.

There is also other reason on which I has decided to get acquainted through the Internet. To me 27 years, also it is time to reflect on creation of own family. I wish to be assured of safety and stability.
In Russia it is impossible. People live one day and do not know, that with them will be tomorrow. I hope that you will understand me correctly. I do not have big desire to leave the country. I simply wish to be happy with the favorite person, I want simple family happiness. You understand me? Please tell to me more about itself. It is very interesting for learning about your ideas. I wish to learn more about your way of life, tell to me about your city, about your desires and your purposes. On it will finish the letter. I wait for your answer with impatience. Tatyana

She stopped writing me when I told her I was writing to two other Russian girls, who as it turns out were scammers also; Kseniya Kalinina and Olga (or Olya) Beret. I have re- posted two additonal photo from above so they are all together in one place.

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2007-04-15, 02:16:43
anonymous from United States  

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2007-04-16, 10:26:31 from Netherlands  
To the guy from Belize I hope for you she is real I think you will be the first one but be aware they have a lot of tricks and they getting clever and clever all the time!!
Good luck
2007-04-16, 10:39:20
Dwayne from United States  
Hello my name Dwayne. I as well as you communicated with the Russian girl and I have sent it of money. But she to me has arrived also we live happily. I thought that all Russian girls are not real but she was real. I have met her on and spoke with it during two weeks. She to me has told that many Russian girls are real also many Russian girls cannot find love from for fraud.
2007-04-16, 13:35:45
anonymous from United States  
Thank you for this site!!! These chicks are scam artists. I hope they are miserable in some backwards country!

I am so glad to see your letter again,I think I am a lucky girl to meet such man and I will do my best to meet you in real life!
you know I can work in any city of your area because it is free choice and agency only helps me to get
only travel documents and ticket, and I do hope that we will like each other and now I have the destination.
The agency will also suggest some places to work in. I do hope I have met my right man!you know I have told you before one
of my friend worked abroad last year and have met right man,now they live there and they are going to
marry. by the way now they are arranging the trip to Russia,(he wants to meet her parents and friends)
I think if I feel that you are my dream and you have the same feelings we could think about our future together.
if not I will just work and return back when the time to travel back. you know I am new here and I am afraid to make any mistake.
I have one great lack,I am very impatient sometimes I can act without thinking.
Sometimes I think that my dream is getting for real and it is so bad to be disappointed later.
I want you to know all small things about me because it shouldn't be any misunderstandings between us.
I want you to know that I am not angel and sometimes I can show my character.And I don't wait that you to be angel too, I just want to meet a kind man .
I am very kind and I can forgive almost all I can't forgive if my man sleep with different woman, I don't know many nessesary words in english.
I hope you can read between lines. A little more about myself!
my favorite activity is fitness. I wanted to be as fitness trainer but
I finished The Irkutsk State Univercity, trainers faculty as fitness
trainer but I don't work on my profession because there are no good fintess clubs in my city,
I used to sit at home and to do all housework,helping my mom. I would like to have good job,
I may work dancing teacher, or trainer of fitness,you know I have a certificate. I worked as a trainer a year ago .
and I would like to do it again .you know how many more younger girls want to get this job too!Alot of competition here. I want to tell you about things I like:
I like to make barbecue and I so much want to have my own home with fireplace.
usually I make very tasty ones and in principle I like to cook and it is not problem for me to cook something tasty and I don't like to visit cafes and restaurants,
at first usually they can't cook weel(maybe only here) and second too high price.
I like warm weather. and my great dream is to live somewhere on tropical island. Also I want to tell you about my dislikes:
I hate our long winters it seems to me they will never end. I hate lies and unfaithfulness.
I hate evil people and politicans I think they like to play wars, I hate any ars.
What I like in a man: faithfulness, honesty. He has to be open- minded and open-hearted, also easy-going. and much more important he is kind,kindness makes our world!
Are you kind and gentle man ?????
I think my man should be kind ,it is great feeling after love,only kind person may be happy, all rude people are unhappy.
or must be. A few questions yet, agency tells that I will have a room in nearest hotel near my future
work but if we like each other may be is it possible to live together?I think we will enjoy life together. do you have your car?animals? I
can't drive and I do hope you give me a few lessons, to be fair I have so many plans .I will find out all travel details
about my flight this week. I will leave my town today in a two hours and i think I will be not able to write to you today or so.
When I am in Moscow I will send you short letter to let you know that I am all right and they tell that it takes about two days to
get all nesseary papers, please confirm your phone number and international airport, I want to be sure I have all your details and
Please don't look at different girls. I am the best(joke). Well, I will close this letter I think I am bore today,and please feel
free to ask. See you soon!I can't believe everything is for real. to be fair I am lost and my head is like any big station with a lot of voice!
KISS and LOVE Oksana!

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> Oksana,

> Wow, I really want this to be true, but I am scared. I have heard about
> this kind of thing happening and bad things have happened. I have to be
> 100% certain that you only have good intentions. I am so scared about being
> hurt again. You see I am so lonely right now. I was married to a girl who
> left me for another Man. It hurt very much and I am still afraid to get
> hurt again. I am a good person and sometimes people take advantage of good
> people for the wrong reasons. You have to promise me that this is for real
> and that you would not hurt me. That is so important to me. I want to fall
> in love and be happy. I would give the right woman all that I have and
> treat her like a Queen. That is how I am.

> To answer your questions:

> 1. I do not drink alcohol very much, and I do not smoke or do drugs.
> 2. I do not like being drunk
> 3. I am never rude to women, especially the one I love

> I am a kind person. I am well educated and I too take good care of my
> body. Like you said, it is the only one I have. I have my own house and I
> work hard. I work with computers for the government. It is a good job. I
> could help you in so many ways, but only if your intentions are good.

> I think you are very pretty. I worry that you would get here to America and
> leave me for another man. Do you think we could fall in love? I like to go
> to the beach. I like to watch movies. I like to go out to eat and spend
> romantic nights together. I am a very good kisser too!

> If you want to come and meet me. I am in Florida. It is very beautiful
> here. Right now it is sunny and warm. I live close to the beach. It is
> very romantic place to live. The nearest airport is Orlando International
> airport in Orlando, Florida. There are many places to work here. I could
> help you find a job.

> Tell me more about yourself. Most important, please, please, please be
> honest with me. If you are playing games and trying to hurt me, it would
> not be fair because I have done nothing to deserve that. I am just a simple
> Man looking for the love of my life.

> I hope you like these pictures. Please send me more of you. I want to get
> to know you. I want to have pictures that I can dream about. Send me more.

> Christian

> On 4/14/07, Oksana <> wrote:
>> Hello my dear Christian, thank you for your answer!
>> At first I think I have to say that I am new in internet and I have only
>> good intentions.
>> you should know that I am not very good writer in english, please be
>> patient to read my
>> messages and see many mistakes. to be fair I don't know what you want to
>> know about me,in principle
>> I am usual girl.I think I should tell you about me, my interests,tastes
>> and hobbies.I think I will tell you
>> about things I want to know about you and you will know my future
>> questions.
>> I am 25 years old,my birthday is August, 25, 1981. I so much don't want
>> to get older ,when I can see old women I am
>> getting crazy to think that it is my future .I do all the best to keep my
>> youth and I keep my body well.In spite of all
>> difficultes here I am trying to be in good condition and I do a lot of
>> exercises to be in good shape!
>> I am about 172 cm tall (5.6) and my weight is about 56 kg. I've been told
>> I look well enough ,
>> and I think that all women have own beaty. I have never been married and I
>> don`t have children.
>> I have one youngest sisters and it is great problem for us because we have
>> only two rooms can't imagine what does it mean to be born
>> in small town in Russia,there are not any chances to live well,to get a
>> good job.All young people leave towns to search
>> great luck in big cities but nobody waits for them there. I want to leave
>> Russia,I know it sounds ugly but I know that I
>> will be lost here like many young girls before me. It is not place to grow
>> children and have stable future.I want to meet my right man .
>> I think in future I can work as fitness trainer I have a certificate. My
>> mother is my great problem too,she has a great dream to see me
>> married and she wants to make me happy but I think it is only my business
>> I am not a little child. She tells me every day
>> that I should get married very soon... To be fair I am not sure I am able
>> to explain all in first message I
>> want to say so much! I just want you to know that I am not afraid to
>> work,I am fairly goal
>> oriented and I am sure you will be not disappoined to meet me in real
>> life.I am going to spend three months
>> abroad to work in any good place,agency promises to help me because it is
>> only the way I can leave Russia.I will have all documents
>> to travel in a few days and i will travel to moscow then,from moscow I
>> will travel to you and they ask me about name of the city i am going to
>> work,
>> if you don't mind to meet me please tell me the name of your city and
>> nearest international airport! I will book my flight from moscow!

>> I think it would be so great to meet my love and stay there forever.Iknow that it is not so easy like I think but I think it is possible that I
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2007-04-16, 15:50:22
anonymous from United States  
anybody got any of these pics from a cunt named zinaida sharipowa?

2007-04-17, 11:37:38   (updated: 2007-04-17, 11:40:19)
anonymous from United States  
well i hope that you people are not spending your money in vain.....i think you should play a game with these people (scammers) and see how things develope between both of you....this is just a follow up of emails that i'm still receiving from my Russian friend OLGA....she calls it good news.

My sweetheart Martin!!!!
I have very-very good news for both of us. I’ve got a package
from the Embassy with the letter of invitation. They have
written me a day and time when I should come to the interview.
As soon as I pass it, I will get my passport with the visa.
It is great!!!
I am so happy and nervous at the same time. I hope everything
will go well and there will be no any difficulties and I will
get my visa without any problems.
As soon as I have my visa, I will buy tickets and then will
take a plane coming to you (BELIZE). But I really need to know the name
of the airport. Please, write me as soon as possible. I need
to know it by all means.
Are you happy?
I am the happiest person at the moment. Though I am a little
scared of the interview. But I am sure everything will be just fine.
I am leaving for Moscow tomorrow. Wish me good luck, darling.
Soon our waiting will be over. I think that we both deserve it.
I will inform you as soon as I know anything myself.
I love you very much and miss you badly.
But very soon we will be together and it is the most important
thing. It gives me forces to fight. And I will do all the best
for our happiness.
Love you.
2007-04-18, 09:00:42 from Netherlands  
Hey guy from Belize let me know if she is arrived she would be the first one I am sure and if you se one of the comments above ther is a other guy also who claimed that he has a russian girl visit him. He say's he is from America but I think he is from Russia [one of the scammers perhaps??] Ok I hope that everything works out for you
2007-04-19, 12:48:29
anonymous from United States  
To the guy from Netherlands, thanks for the tip....i was wondering about that one to. You have a point and it can be true...i think these persons (scammers) have access to thsi site and i think they are aware of wats going on....ONE WORD OF ADVICE TO TARGETED USERS......(DO NOT SEND YOUR TRUE PHOTO OR IDENTITY TO THESE PERSONS) of these days you will find your very own photo on this site and you'll be accused of bieng a scammer and trust me you'll be pissed when and if this happens to you. So be careful....until next time take care guys....later....from MM (BELIZE)
2007-04-19, 18:29:56 from Renton in Washington, United States  
I'm a single American man in Seattle. I responded to an ad in MeetRussianBrides dot com for a 24 year old girl with long brown hair named 'Yuliya Pp' (that last name seems strange; she has never given me more of a surname than that). We have been e-mailing each other a lot, and she's sent a lot of photos. I'd post some of them here, but I don't know how to upload a photo from an e-mail attachment (any help out there on that?) Yuliya's e-mail address is (by the way, this e-mail address appears on a scam website, but with no explaination. It's just with a bunch of other addresses that supposedly have been used in scams).
Yuliya claims to be a children's doctor in Russia. She says she lives in city of Yoshrar-ola (Yoshkar-ola?). Anyway, what caught my eye about Yuliya in the first place was that her ad said she was coming to America soon on a student visa to take a test to be accepted to study to be a doctor in America. So I thought, if she's coming here anyway, it'd be an inexpensive way for me to meet her.
What made me suspicious about a scam was that when I Googled Yoshrar-ola (Yoshkar-ola?), I came up with references to Russian dating scams. I've been researching these scams, and I've been finding in the 'fraud letters' on these sites quite a few of the exact phrases from her original letter to me.
But all of the photos she's sent me seem to be non-professional, and mostly non-sexy. And while she's pleasant looking, she's no beauty queen or sex goddess. And she seems to be sincere. I have not found a photo of her, or her name (such as it is) on any scam sites. She has not asked me for any money, and she claims she wants to meet me here in Seattle and stay here a week before she has to go to Boston to take her medical student tests. She says she has already bought her ticket for her flight to Seattle. It's from JFK (which makes sense, if she's arriving to America from Russia), and it's a Delta Airlines flight which arrives in Seattle on Sunday night, April 29. I checked out the flight # she gave me, and it is a real flight from JFK which is scheduled to arrive at the time she gave me (but I realize, of course, that info like this is readily obtainable on the internet).
One more thing that I thought a little strange--all of her emails have been signed simply 'Yuliya' except one, which was signed 'Oksana.' I asked her about that, and she said the name on her passport is Yuliya, but she was christened 'Oksana,' and a lot of her friends call her that. Also, she seemed to too readily proclaim her love for me.
So, this has a lot of the earmarks of a scam, but as I said, she's asked me for no money. Any comments or suggestions?
2007-04-20, 09:03:46   (updated: 2007-04-20, 09:55:01) from Chicago in Illinois, United States  
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